Most of the popular comments were surprisingly, well, right on the money, with many people agreeing that, for one, it's not just church groups who instigate victim blaming; that victim blaming, overall, is out of hand; that it is the responsibility of assailants to NOT RAPE more than its the responsibility of the victims to not be raped.
Then I stumbled upon this gem, with an appalling 29 diggs up (meaning 29 people vocally and unabashedly agree) and only 4 buries.
If men weren't provoked by women wearing few clothes we wouldn't see the advertising, etc, that we see. Let's face reality here. Naked women turn men on. Chances are there will be more rapes if there are more nearly naked women walking around because men will get more ideas. If you have trouble with that you are probably not attracted to women. Doesn't mean it's right or anything, but please at least show a tiny amount of honesty. If you lust at a woman when you see her, there is probably a guy somewhere that will commit rape for the same reason you lusted.
It gets worse as you scroll down. User flashingcurser sugarcoats his (her?) victim blaming with a sprinkling of fauxminism, evidence a complete misunderstandin thinks that "feminism is about letting women take responsibility for their actions - so if they wear slutty clothes, they should expect to be and deal with being raped.
I'm only sort of paraphrasing.
Rape is rape regardless of what a woman wears. I completely disagree with any nutter that says that someone 'deserves' it because of what someone wore.
That said, feminism was supposed to give women the opportunity to make the same choices as men. It was not supposed to keep them from any consequences to unwise behavior. Some choices have terrible consequences and women should still be 'allowed' to make those choices. An example would be wearing slutty clothes to a biker bar in a bad part of town. Then getting drunk and dancing on the tables. Common sense would tell you that these are bad choices. That doesn't absolve the bikers from the gang rape that follows. Feminism also means that if a woman likes to have rough group sex multiple men who haven't bathed in a long time, that's her choice.
The same example for men would be going to the same bar and yelling to the bar about how stupid an unwashed bikers are. That doesn't absolve the bikers from your hospitalization that follows, but it was clearly a bad choice of behavior. If I gave you some advice before going to that bar to not say bad things about bikers, you would think it was good advice. It might save you from a traumatic assault. But there is this weird double standard when it come to women, if a man gave a women similar well meaning advice about what might get them raped, everyone goes out of their mind. Just because rape is morally wrong and illegal that doesn't mean that some common sense behavior couldn't prevent a few of them.
Part of me wants to bury me down too, after all who doesn't want to see women wearing slutty clothes?
Whooosh, goes the point.
User lafsunlmtd thinks he's being smart likening conditions of rape to a risk evaluation and
you are so off base, it has nothing to do with whether they consented to it or not. Its about whether there actions or decisions increase their chances of rape. Would you say that women who walk alone in dark, crime ridden alleys don't increase their chance of getting raped? They CLEARLY increase their chance of it. It doesn't make the men right in doing it, and it doesn't make them at fault for it happening, but their actions clearly make it easier for it to happen.
Its a very weak tactic to change the frame of the argument if you don't have something smart to say. If you don't like what is being said, change what they say and attack it.
Excuse me for a moment while I pick the pieces of my brain off my computer screen.